I guess I could just ask what do you think its like to be an Asian-American? American culture is so big on masculinity. IF you tell a white guy he has a small dick, or hes a nerd, or a bad driver or a beta male, its a huge personal insult. If white america and Asian america were just two dudes at a bar, and Mr.White said all this shit to Mr.Yello, you might understand why Mr.Yello would be a little pissed. And yet when White America as a whole applies all these insults, and they are insults not stereotypes, to Asian males, and defines Asian males as this, we are expected to take it lying down. If I as an individual, had all the Asian stereotypes flying around me, personally. You would get where I was coming from. But since they are not just personal insults, but stereotypes applied to Asians as a race, that makes it ok. And of course all races have to put up with stereotypes. Poor white males have people thinking they are too handsome, too strong, too rich and too powerful and too manly. At least in terms of masculinity, no other race has this universal downing. Blacks and Latinos are seen as hyper-masculine.
Actually I’m curious how the sociobiologists would explain the place of Latinos. Since they are basically hapa, when you think about it. The descendents of the Mongoloid Native Americans and the white Spanish. So you would think Hispanics should basically be Hapas, intelligent, and a midpoint between white and Asian. Instead the stereotype places them closer to African-Americans. I guess the best pseudo-sociobiological answer I can think of is that the white Conquistadors killed all the native men and raped all the native women. Thus Latino men inherit their ultra-machismo from their white conquerors.
Anyway it just sucks that every insult that you could throw at a man, is thrown at all Asians as a race. And the thing is just being a regular Asian guy when you walk down the street and see tons of WM/AF couples, and AF saying the prefer WMs to AM, and virtually no AM/WF couples. Well that seems like objective proof that the stereotypes are true. Even if its not biologically true, if society is powerful enough to make it a reality, well then it is a reality.
And thats where we come to me as a Hapa male and not just an Asian male. The Urbandictionary written by a fellow hapa male sums up my position perfectly. It is good, but also sad to know that somewhere out there a hapa male just like me wrote that entry. And really there must be tons of Hapa sons of WM/AF who feel like I do. Nothing is more emasculating for an Asian man to see WM/AF. And Hapa males are basically Asian males. And YET.. and yet Hapa males are born of WM/AF. Look sometimes it seems like I’m personalizing my attacks on my parents too much. And maybe thats not fair. IDK it depends how pissed off I am. Look my dad isn’t a stereotypical Asiaphile. And they actually met through mutual friends since they were both single. Thats the way “normal” couples meet. But still when you understand just how degrading WM/Af is to Asian men, you see it hurts as a Hapa male to be born to even the best of WM/AF.
The thing is when WM/AF is confronted, the first line of defense is ignorance. They say well its just an accident, we’re colorblind, the mystery of romance. And this randomness defense, while the most disingenuous and dishonest, is the one I can tolerate the most since at least it contains no explicit attack on Asian males. I would LIKE to think my parents fall into this category, even though I’m highly skeptical of how much it applies in general. Once confronted by reality, statistics and the brute fact that white men get Asian women, but Asian men don’t get white women. Well, the fallback position is well maybe Asian men don’t want white women, or are too shy. And thats where it begins. Thats where the WM/AF defense degenerates into a fullscale attack on Asian men. Where the virtues of Asian women as submissive China dolls are praised, and white men are the knights in shining honor, both more masculine than the dweeby Asian wimps, yet at the same time so much more sensitive, emotional and romantic. So yeah once you force WM/AF into the 2nd line of defense, it quickly bases its whole justification on Asian-male bashing. In some ways the attempted justification of WM/Af pisses me off more than WM/Af itself. But in the end they HAVE TO fall back to that line, because the statistical imbalance is just so overwhelming that random love just won’t cut it.
So yeah I guess to all the people out there who think the views on this blog are so extreme or self-hating, or even go as far to say that this must be fake and I can’t possible be a Hapa male. Just think of what it must feel like as an Asian male to have to see tons of WM/AFs on every corner and no AM/WFs. And then imagine not just being an Asian male, but being a hapa male born of WM/Af. Is it any wonder I feel the way that I do?
As a ABC GUY who’s lived and worked in Los Angeles, Singapore, Bangkok, Hanoi, Taipei, AND Shanghai, I will tell you the the TRUTH why the yellow fever phenomena exists and why you have been betrayed:
1) ALL asian cultures have an ingrained disposition for looking for mates (both girls+boys) with PALE SKIN. This is why you never see asian girl + blacks / indian / mexican.
2) Pretty asian girls with pale flawless skin and petite bodies are a dime-a-dozen in asia, ESPECIALLY in the entire Jiangsu province (Shanghai), and local Chinese guys will treat them as such. Not a problem for hot 10/10 girls, but average and below-average girls feel marginalized, frustrated, and lonely.
In comparison, laowais have a very lowered standard of beauty because white chicks are so fat, vulgar, and unfeminine. So, laowais will fawn over and chase average looking Chinese girls and make them feel pretty, special, and wanted.
This is what makes SPGs embrace western culture, talk with a fake/exaggerated aussie/british accent, and betray asian guys. If you’ve studied psychology, it is because they are “preserving their ego”. ie, “asian guys don’t appreciate me the way white guys do, therefore asian guys must be inferior”. Don’t EVER mention this to a SPG though, she will just get super defensive and say something like “love is blind” etc. (Well if love were so blind, why aren’t you SPGs slutting it up to blacks? LOL)
When it comes to ABC/CBC guys THE TABLES ARE TURNED! In America + Europe, asian guys have it the worst. White girls ignore them and SPG asian girls “betray” them, so a huge number of lonely asian guys are chasing the leftover non-SPG girls. Supply and demand -> frustrated lonely guys with lowered standards of beauty.
Anyway, these ABC/CBC “expats” who come back to work in China all of a sudden find themselves in man’s paradise because they possess the desired laowai qualities (civilized, romantic, lowered standards, $$$), but also look Chinese enough for the girl to PROUDLY show off to her parents and friends.
3) Hollywood propagates the idea that white guys are sexually superior to asian guys. This is so obvious and insulting that I don’t need to explain it. In countries like northern Vietnam where Hollywood “propaganda” is muted, it is very rare to see asian girl + laowai.
Lucky for us though, a lot of rich Chinese companies have been buying up stakes in American film studios, so in the next few decades we will start seeing asian guys pimping it on the big screen. For example, do you know why Ken Watanabe was portrayed as such a pimp handsome guy in Inception? It’s because asian investors financed Christopher Nolan’s film company.
Anyway, hapa guy, I know it sucks to be an asian guy in America, but at least you have the option of getting out. China’s rise and America’s demise gives you much more reason to start a new life in asia, where the chicks are hotter and they haven’t been brainwashed by Western feminism.
ABC guys speaks the truth.
It’s like comparing apples to oranges… pretty soon you’re gonna have a bunch of fucking juice.
I don’t know if ABC is right, but what is sure is that he is vexed and he is trying to “preserve his ego” (ironic isn’t it?)
Actually being mexican myself and having much kholedge of our history,i can tell you the opposite is indeed true.First of all most Mexicans , central, and many south americans are mixed race(mestizo) but genetically mexicans are as a whole 70% native 28% white 2% other
But we inherited that masculine strength from our mongoloid native american ancestors NOT THE SPANIARDS
after the conquest it was native males that had children with all the mestizo & native women.
Spaniard males are extremely wimpy its extremely obvious when i see it.even the japanese got it right when in game street figther 2 T hawk the mexican native is a warrior strong and masculine while vega the white spaniard is a complete dancing fag pretty boy LOL mexicans who are mixed native and full native are extremely more masculine then the wimpy white mexicans.
For a good example look at LOUIS CK(comedian) HE IS A TYPICAL WIMPY WHITE MEXICAN LOL
so please dont insult our native ancestors like that,thanks
Meixcans are not 70% native. They are around 50% native, 40-45% ‘white’, and 5-10% african slave ancestry. So, it’s definitely an even mix. That white ancestry is almost entirely paternal, indicating that the spaniards really did have their way with native women.
The native and the african blood comes from maternal ancestry after the spaniards had their way with the native women.
Montezuma was an effeminate clown compared to Cortes. Typical Indio.
Indios in Mexico are known to be short, squat, weak and ugly, while the White Mexicans are known to be tall, robust, and attractive. The Mestizos are hybrids between the two, and thus they vary significantly in composition. Generally, the more euro-looking mestizos are given better recognition.
Indio Males are still discriminated in Mexico to this very day, by even mestizos. Who are you kidding? They are unwanted.
Your average indio is a hairless mongoloid. The masculine facial features and facial hair comes from the Iberians.
What I’m saying can be confirmed by the actual dna data. Look-up the presence of the R1b (european-specific subclades of r1b) haplogroup in Latin America.
The Native American Q haplogroup was almost wiped out.
I doubt you are even a real mexican, most likely an indio-looking pocho from the US.
Your average mestizo would rather identify with Mediterranean Europeans than any mongoloid or asiatic indio. That’s a fact.
Tyra said 75 percent of interracial relationships in this country are white male/asian female which is a staggering figure, I can’t find the video on the interwebs but it was funny how this one immgrent Asian chick who it seemed like had been here for a minute when asked by Tyra why she thinks white men like Asians she says “well Asian women are very beautiful and very exotic” first of all what a pretentious bitch complimenting herself, leave it in front of the mirror honey. I noticed this cockyness from Asian women because both white and asian men are all after them.
Lets talk about this phenomenon from a sociological stand point. One of the Asian girls on the panel insinuated that playing with blonde haired, blue eyed Barbie and Ken impacted her love map.
My brother is dating a half asian chick and he’s always been a huge nerd, watching Anime, listening to J-pop as a teenager, playing RPGs, wanking off to hentai porn so that’s no surprise, he’s a red headed dork.
My cousin is a wigga voiced Maryland native and even he likes the Asian chicks, he just seemed to keep talking about how big he felt with them, he said he felt like “Blackzilla” and he kept remarking how large his penis looked in their little hands, I assume he has issues with the size of his penis if he needs a small woman to make him feel big.
Have you talked to any guys with yellow fever about why they have it? I assume most of it will either be a cultural/nerd thing or a size thing like I listed above in my two examples, me personally I’d never date an Asian chick not only are they straight up and down but because white men need to stop being selfish and leave something for Asian men, I understand the need to replinish the pool after the black men have taken our white women but they do a lot more than replinish the pool.
You know interracial dating forces false homosexuality, the numbers don’t lie, more Asian men are gay percentage wise than any other race, same with black women, this is no coinsidence, if the crackers would leave the Asians alone and the black man would leave the white woman alone we wouldn’t have this issue.
Alot of fob parents tell their daughters to only bring home white or Asian guys,and most Asian guys are timid as fuck with no kind of dominance or confidence and white guys are the only other option if a Asian dude isn’t cutting it for her.
I live in Orange County and San Francisco and those places are the capitols of white guy/asian girl syndrome. Growing up I didn’t know any full blooded asians. All my asian friends had a white dad and an asian mom except one but his asian dad was half white.
I can’t really knock the white man’s hustle though. My theory on why white guys date asian women is because asian women want the status that being with a white guy gives them. Even if she married a rich asian guy he’s still asian and doesn’t represent that super hero ideal american has for the white man. This makes asian girls more appreciative to be with a white man and they’re more complacent because of it. White women are more independent and want careers and shit but you could get an asian chick and have her make you food and fuck the shit out of her whenever you want. Basically like having a live in sex slave/maid.
Another reason is because a not so attractive white guy could get a way hotter asian girl than he could a white girl. In SF I see dusty ass old white guys holding hands with 20 something chinese bitches with fake titties in high heels. Even if they’re a broke white guy being white alone is a form of currency.
Finally I think some asian girls just grow up around white people and become attracted to white men because that’s all they know. I understand that becuz I grew up with white people too and tend to relate to them because of my own race because of it.
Asians’ lower sexual dimorphism: the main reason for interracial marriage amongst Asian women?
Asian men and Asian women are clearly less different, physically, than the men and women of other races. This is trivial in an Asian-only society, but it makes Asian men less attractive in the context of a multiracial society that includes white men who are taller and more muscular on average (although most of the white men that Asian women date are unathletic and below average in height, they still tend to be taller and better-built than we are).
Intellectually, it also appears that we are less dimorphic sexually. I’m too lazy to dig actual facts up [Edit: I’ve started to compile evidence to support this, see this post], but anecdotally, there are quite a few high-performing Asian women at all levels of academia and in all the respected professions, and although there are more high-performing Asian men than women, the difference doesn’t seem to be as large as it is amongst whites. Women tend to look for partners who are smarter, who earn more money, and who are seen as leaders, and so this distinction will also harm Asian men in a multiracial society.
In the entertainment business, Asian women are plentiful, at least comparatively speaking, with celebrities such as Lucy Liu, Margaret Cho, Connie Chung, Sarah Chang, Grace Park, Julie Chen, etc, and Asian female characters on shows that young people watch, such as Sandra Oh on Grey’s Anatomy and Brenda Song on the Disney Channel. Asian males, on the other hand, are basically absent. There are few, if any, Asian males in punk rock, hard rock, or indie, which encompasses most of what young Asian women are listening to. With almost no exceptions, whenever a young Asian woman queues up a song or her iPod, she’s hearing the voice of a white man or a white woman. You rarely see Asian males on TV or in the movies, and when you do, it’s never as a character who’s exciting and confident. As I’ve said, morally good doesn’t equate to attractive. Nobody thinks Mr. Miyagi is sexy. Also, you will also never see an Asian man in a pornographic video, unless it’s produced outside the U.S. Asian women are of course, “especially overrepresented” in the porn industry, as Wikipedia puts it.
We don’t fare much better in sports. Asian women are outstanding in golf and skating, but Asian men aren’t dominant in anything. There are a small number of Asian-American men who’ve done well in the Olympics or in professional sports, but it’s not supposed to be equal — to make us competitive, we need to be dominant over our women in sports, just as white men are dominant over white women in sports.
The key idea is that there are not enough high-status Asian men to provide suitable partners for the numerous high-status Asian women in sports, entertainment, and the professions. Successful women look for even more successful men, but almost all the most successful men are white, not Asian. Those Asian men who actually are greatly successful are never exciting, flashy, confident personalities. We just don’t see women swooning over men like Jerry Yang (Yahoo! co-founder), Shiing-Shen Chern (leading 20th century mathematician), Ichiro Suzuki, or Li Ka-shing (Hong Kong businessman, worth $18.8 billion).
What’s the answer to this problem? The simplest is physical separation. That ends the issue immediately. But that isn’t happening, for now. Asia becoming more powerful and influential will help, but not much. It would have to reach the point where Asia was literally dominant over the rest of the globe to have more than a marginal effect. What about Asian men actually changing their behavior to meet the challenge? I can dream, but in all likelihood they won’t do a damn thing. They’ll be as quiet and passive as they’ve ever been. What we need to do is impose our own standards, so that whereas today acting like a monkey means you’ve got “game,” tomorrow it will mean that, well, you’re acting like a monkey. That would solve the problem *and* allow us to avoid adopting the undesirable behaviors of others. But it requires power and determination, and we don’t have that yet. Until we do, we will continue to suffer, and we will continue to watch as there are fewer and fewer beautiful, talented, intelligent, or athletic Asian men and women and more and more of the unappealing creatures that result from the mini-Holocausts known as interracial relationships.
Asians *are* less sexually dimorphic physically. Asian males are almost never large and muscular, and Asian women are almost never big-breasted and/or extremely curvy. Theoretically, this could harm either group, but empirically it harms Asian males more.
Asians *are* less “physically impressive,” at least judging by athleticism and musculature. A much higher percentage of whites are fat, which is a major reason why more Asian women than white women are attractive, but that is unrelated to the fact that the strongest, tallest, and most athletic males are almost always white men, not Asian men. To the extent that such traits are valued, that will tend to make white men more attractive than Asian men, and it does.
Asians *are* significantly underrepresented in professional and Olympic sports (25% of the world’s population wins maybe 5-10% of the medals). If you can’t figure that out, you haven’t been watching. Show me all the great Asian (not Samoan, or half-Asian) football players, soccer players, baseball players, basketball players, tennis players, weightlifters, etc. There’s a few stars here and there, but they’re severely underrepresented in all these sports and most others, too. That doesn’t go just for the professional level, but for any level of sports, down to and including high school sports, which are a big deal in most high schools in America. And to repeat, because success in sports tends to make a man viewed as more attractive, the fact that virtually all the sports heroes at every level are black or white men will tend to make those two groups more attractive to women, and it does.
I did not at all suggest that being on TV is the main criterion for being successful. As you know, I said that Asian males are practically invisible on TV, and because what’s on TV is so important to most young people, that invisibility (especially in non-stereotypical roles) has the potential to make them less attractive in the eyes of Asian women or women in general.
Asians in the media do seem less manly. Kim-Jung il isn’t manly, sorry. His habits and hobbies clearly make him more on the feminine side. He’s short, too. In case you’re not aware, a man’s attractiveness is strongly linked to his height (just check out the Craigslist personals). Bruce Lee and the other martial artists aren’t viewed as being that manly, either. If you want a look at characters that I’d consider genuinely masculine, watch films like Gladiator, The Usual Suspects, Pulp Fiction, and LA Confidential. You will never see Asian males portrayed like the males in those films. Or watch something like Ferris Bueller’s Day Off. You will never see an Asian male in a role like that — confident, smooth-talking, popular with the women. Or try Ashton Kutcher on Punk’d. That’s another type of role you’ll never see an Asian male in. We can go on and on with this; the basic idea is that Asian males are either stuffed into stereotypical roles or are portrayed as aggrieved (by a dominant white man) or morally good but not exciting, confident, and virile.
Finally, I think you have forgotten (I’ve reminded you before) that this is a large-scale political issue — it has nothing to do with some guy’s sex life or people getting shitfaced or whatever it is you’re talking about in the last paragraph. This is about the continued existence and prosperity of my people in this country. I recognize the threat that interracial relationships pose to that, and I’m simply trying to get at the root of these relationships — to understand why they’re happening so as to make an attempt to end them. If one hypothesis turns out to be wrong, I’ll just move on to the next one. But this hypothesis, I believe, is right. With proper collection of data it could be placed on a more solid foundation, but I think anyone who’s been paying any attention knows that the ratio of high-status Asian men (sports stars, business executives, scientists, lawyers, TV stars, movie stars, models, and so on) to high-status Asian men is significantly lower than the ratio of high-status white men to high-status white women, and this holds not just at the very highest levels, but in everyday life in cities and towns all across America.
There’s a concept in interest theory called the effective rate of interest – the overall rate of interest in a given time period, taking into account the effects of compounding. For example, if the rate of interest on a loan is 2.25% per quarter, the effective annual rate of interest is (1.0225)^4 – 1 = 9.31%. In a similar spirit, I define the effective fertility rate of Asian women as their actual fertility rate, taking into account the effects of miscegenation. I’m asking the question, “on average, how many Asian children do Asian women have?”
In 2004, the Census Bureau published a report on the fertility patterns of American women, with breakdowns by education level, race, marital status, and other variables. The report stated that Asian women 40-44 years of age had averaged 1.92 children born, and because so few women give birth after age 45, 1.92 is a good proxy for the fertility rate of Asian women. Already, this is below that needed to sustain a population (2.10).
Now add interracial marriage as a factor. We could use the overall figures for each of the ethnicities: 13.3% for Chinese women, 34% for Filipino women, 41.2% for Japanese women, 27.4% for Korean women, and 10.3% for Vietnamese women. However, in the long run, the relevant statistics are those for Asian women raised in a U.S. cultural context. Asian-Nation’s data for U.S.-raised Asian women: 33.5% for Chinese, 52.1% for Filipinos, 31.6% for Japanese, 51.9% for Koreans, and 25.8% for Vietnamese. We could also use this table, which is for young (25-34) U.S.-raised Asian women. For 2nd-gen+ women: Chinese 44.7%, Filipinos 61.8%, Japanese 47.7%, Koreans 50.3%, Vietnamese 24.8%. Using the 2000 Census data shown here to estimate weights for each group, I conclude that approximately 48% of young, married, American-born Asian women are with a man outside their race, and that’s being generous by assuming that marriages to hapas are same-race marriages.
It’s dangerous to go from marriage statistics to birth statistics, as it’s easily possible that AF/AM couples have more or less children than AF/WM couples, among other complications. It’s also likely that young, 2nd-generation Asian women are having fewer children than their parents did, meaning that the fertility rate of 1.92 cited above should not be used. But content on making the roughest of estimates, I proceed from a non-Asian marriage rate of 48% to a non-Asian birth rate of 48%; that is, 48% of the children born to these women are multiracial. That makes the effective fertility rate, or the number of Asian children born per Asian woman, 1.92 * (100% – 48%) = 1.00. That would be the lowest in the world, aside from the Hong Kong SAR. It is less than half that needed to sustain a population. Only in the context of continued immigration, or infinite lifespans, could such a people survive. Could immigration continue indefinitely? No, because all East Asian countries except for North Korea and Mongolia have below-replacement fertility rates themselves.
Put simply, our current path guarantees our eventual disappearance from the United States and, in fact, from all Western nations. Certainly, times change, and in the decades to follow interracial marriage rates could decline drastically. They could also go up even more. The percentage of the population that is Asian will still be increasing for the foreseeable future, and that’s one reason to believe that rates will decline, but the book Asian American X stated in its opening pages that interracial marriage rates are significantly higher for the third generation than for the second generation. If this is true, the effective fertility rate should decrease over time, as more and more remaining Asians are from the third or subsequent generations. Another possibility is that marriages to mixed-race Asians will cut into the interracial marriage rate, but there’s little to say about that — it may happen, it may not happen, it may cut into the intraracial marriage rate instead. Finally, it’s possible that Amish-like Asian communities will emerge (Amish-like in that they separate themselves from the rest of society), or that after many generations pass, the Asians who survive will be selected for conservative, ethnocentric attitudes, and will thus be very unlikely to intermarry. Either possibility could be sufficient to prevent us from being wiped out, but neither would maintain us in large numbers, or elevate us from the marginal social status we occupy today.
When Asian males speak out against interracial marriage, they usually refer to the gender disparity, and to their losing the most desirable of their women. To them, it’s a power/status thing, but that’s only one aspect of the problem. More importantly, this is about the very survival of a people, and the data tell us we’re losing, badly.
Look at the cover of Kip Fulbeck’s book, Part Asian, 100% Hapa. That has to be one of the ugliest people I’ve ever seen. I hope that’s not the best he can come up with. The thing is, Asian-White multiracials should be more attractive, because they tend to be born of parents who are more attractive than usual. And yet they’re less attractive than Asian women AND less attractive than White women. In my lifetime I’ve only seen one really good-looking hapa, and with an Asian surname, I don’t even know for sure that she is one. I just made my way through 600+ pictures of mixed-race monsters, and I’m here to tell you, YES, they are every bit as ugly as I’ve been saying. Even if both parents are attractive, the child will not be, except possibly in a very dirty, unclean, slutty way (kind of like another unfortunate group of people, which I won’t mention here). To be honest, I feel sorry for these people, but they are what they are, and they need to be separated from civilized society permanently.
From what I see every day it would appear that American women of Asian ancestry almost never marry Asian men. Therefore I don’t think Asians, as an ethnic group, have any future in America. There will just be a lot of people walking around whose mothers or grandmothers were Asian and Asian sirnames will die out.
Asians do have less sexual dimorphism. That’s true.
Wouldn’t that also mean that Asian women are less feminine than White women?
I don’t dispute this. You should see that it is not Asian women’s attractiveness that makes white men chase after them.
And the reason most hapas are ugly, is because their parents are ugly. You are very mistaken when you say they are born of parents that are more attractive than usual.
The Asian Women that race mix are usually the bottom of the barrel types that are resentful against Asian Men because they never get any attention from them and the White Men that marry these women hate White Women because they wouldn’t give them the time of day.
This is why it is usually White Male Asian Female couples that bash White Women and Asian Men more than anyone else.
You said that you have only ever seen one hapa that was really good looking and that she had an Asian surname.
That is because Asian Men with White Women are the couples that are more attractive than usual. Do not be unsure of whether she is really a hapa either.
Have you seen Julien Kang? Denis Kang? They look completely white, but their father is full Korean.
This lack of sexual dimorphism will harm Asian men only as long as people believe in the supposed “Asian Beauty Myth”.
I would also like to add that Julien and Denis Kang are attractive because of their white looks.
Just like Liu Yifei is attractive because she resembles a White Woman more than the average Asian woman.
As the father of two beautiful pure white girls and as a WN, I am tired of hearing these morally bankrupt, monstrously unattractive WMAF couples attack White Women. It is only these couples that rant and spread lies about White Women being unattractive and fat. Any White “man” with these orcs is no man at all.
They do it so much that Asian Male White Female couples have become a minutely more pleasant sight. I have also noticed that Asian Male White Female couples rarely bash White Men or White Women. Asian women are truly disgusting.
What I have noticed about Asian Men is that they are not very aggressive with the less attractive Asian Women. I wish this would change.
Asian men, keep your orcs in line.
“I would also like to add that Julien and Denis Kang are attractive because of their white looks.”
You couldnt be further from the truth. I find that Julien is attractive because I can guess his asianness, and AM like So JiSub and Johnny Tri Nguyen are more attractive than Julien and Denis by FAR. And yes Im a non-asian woman
The racism and sexism on here is astounding. You know some shitty people. Stop generalizing and hang out with better people. If you have depression or other problems, seek help or at least try to find some positive energy to improve your life.
People of every race and sex rapes, murders, steals. Some don’t. Many commenters are generalizing and saying that all women do this or all Asians/whites do that. But you do know there are good people out there? Good men. Good Asians. Good whites. Good Asian women. Good White women. Good mothers and fathers who sacrifice their lives for their children.
I work in a hospital and you have no idea how many mothers and fathers of all different races – Asians, whites, blacks, Hispanics, Indians, etc. are willing to risk their lives to save their children and loved ones. What do you say to those people? Don’t discredit them, please.
Do yourself some good. Reading about all the negativity will make your life worst. Life isn’t that long. You can either choose to be positive and live to the best of your abilities or be bitter and die a sad, bitter, mean person.
If you are reading this blog and upset by all the hate, know that this is a very small portion of people who are in search hate and negativity. They are here to vent and find others with the same racist or negative mindset. Also, many youths go through an identity crisis in their adolescence. Things get better if you think positively.
People are dying at war everyday. People are losing limbs loved ones and are still grateful for life. Try to be happy. Even if it is difficult, try. It can only get better.
@Stop
Im an asian guy. in the emergency ward, I went to hospital for treatment for gout by a white guy nurse saw i was in pain and deliberately told me that he ran out of treatment, and i had to hobble all the way to the inhouse chemist that felt like a mile on my crotches. now why didnt the guy call someone to get it for me know, knowing my condition? why did he make me hobble what felt like ages to the inhouse chemist, when he is meant to have the medication ready. wouldnt have been nicer to wait for the medication instead?
you want to make out that race doesnt exist just because you work in a hospital. of course people are going to act different under pressure, but why dont white people for example rebel against authority that is creating corruption printing money , yes their own white government? because those are the same institutions that give them privilege. so dont tell me people do things out of morality. they act out of cowardice. and under that umbrella of human cowardice, lies the social structure of RACE that the multicolored rainbow of people , by default choose to live under.
you are probably a white person and if you arent you sound like one. kumbayah my ass
This is the relationship that we WMAF sons are born out of:
It’s all about maximizing one’s dating pool.
Let’s imagine a hypothetical dating pool of 100 WM and 100 WW. Things are even and balanced right? Now let’s introduce 30 Asians: 15 AM and 15 AW. If the AM are effectively eliminated from the dating pool through emasculating stereotypes, but the 15 AW are included, what is the net result for the WM? Their value is increased because suddenly, it’s 100 WM and 115 WW+AW. The gender imbalance serves to inflate the value of WM (think China’s gender imbalance, but in reverse).
This all makes sense if you dig a little deeper into the WM psyche. Aside from the rabid sexist pigs, the most common gripe that the average WM seems to have with feminism is that suddenly, Joe Bro isn’t such a catch anymore. In a world where women can make their own money and control their own reproductive plans, the average WM with a college education isn’t quite the catch that he was as he was during the 1950s. Look up the article “There’s no longer someone for everyone.”
The idea is that feminism has unfairly devalued the worth of the WM. That’s why if you go to any AW-related article, you’ll see a brigade of WM who can’t resist slamming WW while “praising” AW. It’s all wounded ego, and these WM are trying to use AW as “strike-breakers” to try to get all these feministy WW to lower their demands and go back to the day when they would properly be deferential and worshipful of the almighty WM.
Also, at my school, I’ve seen many Asian girls glaring at Asian guys just for chatting up a white girl whereas Asian guys never really pay attention to the armies of Asian girls clinging to white guys’ arms.
Ultimately, it comes down to a social cost-benefit analysis. An AM certainly gains status if he’s seen as one of those AM who can “get” a WW, but it is often not easy to do so. He’ll have to approach WW, risk rejection and perhaps even hostility (especially from WM), face race-based putdowns, etc. And after all that, he may get a WW who’s not considered all that much more attractive than an equivalent AW. So why not just stick to pursuing attractive AWs? This is the route that many AM take, I think.
In contrast, it’s not that hard for an AW to find an interested WM and there are practically no barriers since American society encourages WM/AW pairings and AM generally don’t publicly intervene. WW aren’t all that bothered either, probably because it’s mostly lower-quality WM who are pairing up with AW. And after all that, an AW would end up with a WM who is widely seen to have vastly more social value than an AM.
The social value gap between AM and WM is much bigger than that between AW and WW. So for AM, it’s big cost, small (comparative) benefit. For AW, it’s small cost, big benefit. This is my impression, too. An Asian woman gains a lot of status by “upgrading” to white men whereas an Asian man gains very little by dating white women. I think the reason for this is that because we live in a white patriarchy, white men lose little if any privilege by dating Asian women whereas white women lose almost all of their privilege by dating Asian men.
At my school, it’s a daily occurrence to see Asian women hanging out with mostly white groups of men. However, in the last year, I cannot remember seeing any white women hanging out with mostly Asian groups of men. The irony is that Asian men vastly outnumber white men at my school.
I find it unlikely that this is because Asian men don’t accept white women. Quite the opposite, actually. I think white women don’t want to lower their social status by associating with Asian men, so they stick to white men. In classes, it’s quite common to see white men sitting with Asian women that are clearly their friends. However, white women and Asian men sitting next to each other are almost always strangers, if any are even sitting next to each other.
In fact, I would bet you a lot of money that the white men and white women here are both more likely to hang around Asian women than Asian men, as strange as that sounds. While I regularly see white men walking around with Asian women or chatting them up, I can go days at a time without seeing one Asian man so much as walking next to a white woman.
Based just on what I’ve seen, I’ve gathered a bit of data on the number of white male/Asian female couples vs. Asian male/white female couples. Many were intimate, like holding hands, hugging, eating, or sitting closely together, but the bulk were walking together without anyone else with them.
The Asian interracial disparity originates from the Chinese coolies in the Old West and America’s wars in East and Southeast Asia. Compared to the Chinese, there were practically no Indian coolies in the American West during the 1800s and America has no extensive history of waging war in South Asia, unlike in East Asia and Southeast Asia.
Because East Asians and Southeast Asians resemble each other more than they do South Asians, East Asians and Southeast Asians are generally seen as one race whereas South Asians are perceived as a separate race, more similar to Arabs. The result is that distinct sets of stereotypes are applied to South Asians/Middle Easterners vis-à-vis East/Southeast Asians.
Although both groups are affected by the Model Minority and Perpetual Foreigner stereotypes, only the former is affected by Islamophobia while only the latter is affected by Yellow Peril thinking. Due to the nature of American wars that were rooted in the Yellow Peril stereotype, East/Southeast Asian men came to be seen as conquered menaces whereas East/Southeast Asian women were taken as spoils of war.
America’s wars in the Middle East are relatively recent so there does not seem to be the same degree of obsession with South Asian/Middle Eastern women among white men as there is with East/Southeast Asian women. However, like the stereotype of East Asian women as prostitutes, there is also the stereotype of Middle Eastern women as veiled belly dancers, so that may change in the future.
In any case, Asians of all stripes are affected by Orientalism, which heavily influences American foreign policy. As long as the US Fifth and Seventh Fleets remain active in the Persian Gulf and Asia Pacific, America will always have a need to dehumanize Asian Americans in one form or another.
. In the US, ethnic Chinese women are more likely to marry out than ethnic Chinese men. In Southeast Asia, the reverse is true. There, ethnic Chinese men are more likely to marry out than ethnic Chinese women. Where white men have higher social status than Chinese men in the West, Chinese men have higher economic status than indigenous men in Southeast Asia.
A very clear pattern is established by these two opposing trends within the same culture, that is, sinic/Confucian culture. Whether a group’s men or women are more likely to marry out is influenced by its status in society. With some exceptions, men are usually more likely to marry out than women if they have high status and belong to a patriarchal culture.
Middle Eastern and South Asian cultures are comparatively more patriarchal than East Asian cultures. While Muslim men are allowed to marry out, Muslim women are forbidden to do the same. Hindus also place enormous pressure on women to marry within their culture. And the marriage patterns reflect this. Middle Eastern and South Asian men, although highly endogamous, are more likely to marry out than the women.
If sexism and patriarchy were the root cause of East Asian women abandoning East Asian men in favor of white men, then we should expect just the same, if not more, from other patriarchal cultures. Instead, we see the exact opposite. The women from these cultures are even more loyal to their men. Where does this leave East Asian women?
I saw the Dr. Seuss picture here and was absolutely horrified. To think that I used to like his books as a child. Apparently he felt regret for his depictions and created “Horton Hears a Who” as a symbol of apology for the Japanese people. “A person’s a person no matter how small.” =-/